Russian woman from harem Alex Leslie told about the arrest and prison in Thailand
'14.04.2018'
Source: Air force
Thai police have filed new charges against Alexander Kirillov (Alex Leslie) and Anastasia Vashukevich (Nastya Rybka) in the case of conducting illegal sex training in Pattaya. A city police spokesman told reporters that defendants face up to 10 years in prison. But several Russians have already been released. Diana Simuk, extradited to Russia, told what hell she managed to get out of.
On Friday, it became known that the Pattaya court imprisoned Leslie and Rybka. As the correspondent of RIA Novosti informs, the court session was held behind closed doors. In addition to the judges and the secretary, it was attended by eight suspects, an assistant attorney and a translator.
“All eight [defendants] were charged under three articles of the Thai Criminal Code and imprisoned as a preventive measure. They will be transferred to Pattaya City Prison tonight. The next court hearing on this case will be held on April 24, ”the court secretary told the agency.
The arrest and subsequent arrest of Rybka (real name Anastasia Vashukevich) and Leslie (Alexander Kirillov) occurred almost immediately after opposition leader Alexei Navalny published his investigation about possible meetings between millionaire Oleg Deripaska and deputy chairman of the Russian government Sergei Prikhodko, where the main source of information was Instagram Nastya Rybka and her book.
From prison, Leslie wrote a letter to the American embassy, asking for protection in exchange for information about Russia's intervention in the US presidential election, which Rybka allegedly has. Of the ten who were arrested, only two managed to return to Russia so far: Thailand sent Diana Simuk and Denis Kozlov to Moscow.
BBC Russian Service spoke with Diana Simuk, extradited to Russia. Like other followers of Leslie, she took a pseudonym for herself - Rose.
BBC: Rose is the name that Alex gave you, like Grass or Rybka?
DS: We ourselves invent a name for ourselves, decide for ourselves what we will call ourselves.
I have been in the "topic" somewhere since November of the year before last. A friend of mine once gave me a book - Codex. I read, became interested in the book, began to look for more information. It became interesting to me, and I came to the training. First she went through the “base”, then “telesku”, “hunting” [Alex Leslie's trainings of various difficulty levels - after the final training, a woman receives the title of “hunter” for men - approx. BBC].
Seduction is life. Seduction is correct communication with people. We seduce everyone we meet. If you want to seduce a specific person, it turns out that you seduce all of his environment.
BBC: How much has your life changed since you went through training?
DS: This training is not only about the relationship between a man and a woman, but learning is both about leadership and management. This is the development of oneself in various fields. I can put myself right with any person. Became stronger, more confident, better, relationships with people improved. I did not understand how to communicate, and they gave it to me.
BBC: Nastya Rybka got into the media with some startling stories: either sex on the embankment in the center of Moscow, or a trip to Navalny headquarters. Did you do something similar?
D.S .: Unfortunately, I was not with them at that moment - there were other things. But I would like to be with them [on the embankment]. Well, look, is having children a shame? Is having sex a shame? In fact, whoever you ask, most people have sex in public. Many filmed sex on camera. So why is it considered shameful?
There are some people who are very gripped and feel that they can tell others what to do. They think that if they start doing it themselves, they will be pounded. They are afraid, so they begin to point out to others in the same way. I'm not afraid. Why be ashamed. If a girl finds a guy she likes, who she wants - what's the problem? Shyness is caused by what you think is bad. And if you like a young man, what's wrong with that?
BBC: Tell me about Thailand, how it all happened. On the last day of the training, Leslie police entered the hall ...
DS: I was very surprised, I did not understand what they were doing here at all. There was a translator, quite rude in communication, and she did not want to talk to us. Ten people were taken away, the rest were released, and we were taken to the station. Ten people were put in a small corner of the hall, separated from the rest. In the station we were told that we have already been charged.
BBC: Was it scary?
DS: Curious. I could not believe it somehow. The feeling was as if this was not happening to us. We were surprised, we didn’t do anything illegal. There were so many versions why this happened, that they cannot be remembered. The fact that we will not be free soon, we had no idea at all.
We [for several days] were sitting in something like a monkey house - I don't know what the name is, but it looks like a dungeon. Then there was the trial. We were first given one amount of the deposit, and then they sharply increased it - there was not enough for everyone. Therefore, only six people were able to get out on bail, but their visas were immediately canceled and they were taken to the [immigration] prison in Bangkok. They were kind of released on bail, but they don't have a visa, so they are imprisoned. And the four of us were sent to the Nong Pla Lai prison in Pattaya.
BBC: What does a Thai prison look like?
D.S .: I was in two prisons: in Nong Pla Lae and Banglamung. I was allergic to water there. We slept on the floor: they put one blanket under us, the second made a pillow, and the third - small and prickly - I covered myself. We slept with the lights on. It is cold at night, kidneys are freezing. Instead of a toilet, there is a hole in the corner of the cell. The first week I was not given slates and I walked barefoot on hot concrete.
What were we doing there? Mostly they sat on concrete. The schedule was as follows: they get up at 5:30 in the morning, hang up at 9:30 in the evening. In the morning they pray and count how many people. They go to the shower, pray again, then a hymn. Someone goes to work, someone cleans up, someone just sits. I was sent to embroider with beads on fabrics. Meals three times a day - rice with some kind of stew. It is impossible to eat broth, it makes you sick. And you can eat rice.
The water is dirty, everyone has some kind of eye problems: the eyes are yellow, the capillaries are drawn to the iris, and the protein floats to the iris of the eye. It's scary to see. This did not happen to me - it seems to me that it takes more time than I was. I was there for 23 days.
In Nong Pla Lae I was alone, and three more boys in the male part. We were not allowed to communicate.
BBC: Did you even understand someone there?
D.S .: Thais know English very poorly. There were two people who knew Russian: more precisely, one knows, the other barely understands, but can answer in English. I managed to communicate with some in English. The rest could only be asked what they were doing. Basically, they were in this prison for drugs, for theft - that is, these are criminal cases. And our case is not a criminal one, but we were nevertheless brought to this prison. Those who were awaiting trial were in orange clothes, and those who had already been sentenced in blue.
And the prison in Banglamung is a place that looks like a dungeon. You sit on a piece of concrete: three walls and a grate. Upstairs is a lamp that shines with a cold light. And all the time that you are there, you do not see the daylight. It's very dirty, damp, water is dripping on you, and you sleep on cold concrete, you don't even have anything to bed. There we waited for a week until we were deported.
BBC: Are you in prison sick?
DS: The health there is undermined. I recently fainted, I have a cough, pain in my ears. Previously, this was not with me. The doctor said it was acute bronchitis. And Denis is covered with a rash, he is very hot, his cheek is swollen. He's on bed rest now.
BBC: When you arrived in Moscow, what happened at the border?
D.S .: We were led a separate path from the plane. They asked how long you were in Thailand, why you were expelled, what did you do there, where you live - general questions. And finally they said: "We are letting you out to Russia."
BBC: Why did you just fly in together?
DS: They should have sent Igor [Kucheryavenko], but he had a flight the next day, and then they already said that there were some new charges.
In my opinion, these are some ridiculous accusations. So that some kind of rape ... This was not. Well, it couldn't be like that. This was invented so that our guys stay longer in a Thai prison. The guys at IDC (immigration prison in Bangkok - BBC approx.) Were banned from programs, dating, banned everything. Well, there can be no such strong attention to such a small charge as a work permit.
